Thank you for that informative link, its always nice to see and understand new information. However I do see a few flaws in how this study can be linked to medicinal uses, especially those who are allready being medicated for brain trauma. I do know that anticonvulsants are used to effectivley shut down certain areas of the brain and reduce random electrical impulses. Also I dont think a study of a still growing brain is a good basis for the study. I would like to see an image of a brain that is also under the influence of anticonvulsant drugs. As with all drugs, there can be positive and negative effects. Anyone considering the personall use of cannabis needs to research the cons and pros of use. In my view, any choice of personall use should be made by the person and not decided by any government. If you chose to use a medication over another it should still be your choice. as Ive previously stated, Itās not for everyone and I do not feel it should be pushed on an individual, but it should still be their perrogative.
Daniel A Sadler said:
Ok I use to be some what chiled about medical use of Marijuana but this past week my wife was at conference for therapist and they were going over drug interactions with the brain. They had this new type of MRI brain scans that show how healty brain look VS brains that use drugs the worse one was from Marijuana use even medical grade. This has canged my view on this totaly. Marujuana does huge amounts of damage to the brain. We all have damage because of our AVMās donāt make it worse. The brain on Marujuana had the most extesive damage and they are finding a veary large number of people are having seriouse metal issues because of medical grade Marijiuana the scan were done on control groups. This has changed my point of view on this. The FDA is going to be reviewing Maruijiuana use because of this new study. br /> The scan they had were better then this link that I will post.
This is from the UK and has nothing to do with our laws here in the us. Education on a subject is inportant understand your medications and the issues it can cause or damages it will do.
That is good information, but they forgot to put up a scan of the brain after a person has been on oxycontin, percoset, percodan, morphine etc for months or years. I wonder what a brain would look like after being on Tylenol, Aleve, Excedrin and other over the counter pain medications.
I would be real suspicious of someone publishing such findings, and not publishing the results of scans of people using over the counter medications.
We all know for a fact that if there were a big reduction in the use of the above listed drugs, large drug manufacturers, and their share holders would suffer greatly. That is why they spend billions of dollars on our politicians.
I donāt use, and never have used marijuana, or any other illegal drug, but with almost constant headaches, I am willing to try marijuana if I can persuade a physician to write me a prescriptionfor it.
How much worse for the brain is marijuana vs oxycontin?
Dewey
Daniel A Sadler said:
Ok I use to be some what chiled about medical use of Marijuana but this past week my wife was at conference for therapist and they were going over drug interactions with the brain. They had this new type of MRI brain scans that show how healty brain look VS brains that use drugs the worse one was from Marijuana use even medical grade. This has canged my view on this totaly. Marujuana does huge amounts of damage to the brain. We all have damage because of our AVMās donāt make it worse. The brain on Marujuana had the most extesive damage and they are finding a veary large number of people are having seriouse metal issues because of medical grade Marijiuana the scan were done on control groups. This has changed my point of view on this. The FDA is going to be reviewing Maruijiuana use because of this new study. br /> The scan they had were better then this link that I will post.
This is from the UK and has nothing to do with our laws here in the us. Education on a subject is inportant understand your medications and the issues it can cause or damages it will do.
Here is a link for you Dewey, http://www.salem-news.com/articles/march022009/mj_vs_morphine_pl_3-2-09.php
Some comparative information. I strongly believe Cannabis is definately the less harmfull to the user than any opiod in the long run. The addiction possiblities of Cannabis alone are mostly nill when compared to strong opiods such as Oxycontin. As far as the aforementioned study, I would be a little suspect of the scan of the 16 year old brain under the use of marijuana. If it was a study showing a fully developed brain it might be a little more informative. Also there is no true control of that study as to what that subjects brain structure showed before marijuana use. As such there is no study to date that I know of that can confirm a link between brain cell degeneration and Cannabis use. Please remember I am not a physician, but in my opinion, Cannabis use is definately the lesser of two evils. The possible side effects of Oxycontin use are far more dangerous than that of marijuana.
Dewey M Reynolds said:
That is good information, but they forgot to put up a scan of the brain after a person has been on oxycontin, percoset, percodan, morphine etc for months or years. I wonder what a brain would look like after being on Tylenol, Aleve, Excedrin and other over the counter pain medications.
I would be real suspicious of someone publishing such findings, and not publishing the results of scans of people using over the counter medications.
We all know for a fact that if there were a big reduction in the use of the above listed drugs, large drug manufacturers, and their share holders would suffer greatly. That is why they spend billions of dollars on our politicians.
I donāt use, and never have used marijuana, or any other illegal drug, but with almost constant headaches, I am willing to try marijuana if I can persuade a physician to write me a prescriptionfor it.
How much worse for the brain is marijuana vs oxycontin?
Dewey
Daniel A Sadler said:
Ok I use to be some what chiled about medical use of Marijuana but this past week my wife was at conference for therapist and they were going over drug interactions with the brain. They had this new type of MRI brain scans that show how healty brain look VS brains that use drugs the worse one was from Marijuana use even medical grade. This has canged my view on this totaly. Marujuana does huge amounts of damage to the brain. We all have damage because of our AVMās donāt make it worse. The brain on Marujuana had the most extesive damage and they are finding a veary large number of people are having seriouse metal issues because of medical grade Marijiuana the scan were done on control groups. This has changed my point of view on this. The FDA is going to be reviewing Maruijiuana use because of this new study. br /> The scan they had were better then this link that I will post.
This is from the UK and has nothing to do with our laws here in the us. Education on a subject is inportant understand your medications and the issues it can cause or damages it will do.
ok Iām sorry ro do this to you but you need a better ref. then Dr. Phillip Leveque he has had his Dr license revoked and suspened. This guy is a Doc in the box.
The link I posted was making the point that you should know and fully understand what you are doing to your brain even with alcohol, cigarettes and even caffeine. The study my wife is talking about was showing what long tearm use of drugs on the brain and the problems they are seeing develop in people like paranoia, bipoler disorders. All scans are of adult brains reread the link.
I refuse to take Oxycontin. Iām taking a normal does of ultram 100ER, Verapmill 125ER, and Propanolol 60 ER. That is my med list because I have been taking CO Q10 (cut my migranes in half after 2-3 mouths of taking it) riboflavin found in most b-12 mixes and potassium and magnesium. EVERY one is Dif because of the problems the AVM is causing. the Mineral list is good for most every one try it and see.
You have no reason to say sorry Daniel, I should have researched him a bit more. Edit: I just did and it appears his liscense was pulled for other issues such as not performing physicals, failing to consult with patientās other physicians, and poor record keeping. I dont see how this would flaw his observations in the comparison of Cannabis vs opiate based medicines. First and foremost, I truly do appreciate discussions like this as I always like to learn new information. If you could provide information from the study that you and your wife saw I would truly love to see it! I actualy did just reread your original link and it does indeed indicate the scan labeld āCannabisā is that of a 16 year old boy. I did a little more searching around and found a recent study(http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/02/10/new-study-finds-marijuana-dā¦) showing that marijuana does not have a theraputic effect in Alzheimerās patients, so I would not try to argue that point.
Again, i would like to reiterate that I am not a medical professional in any way, (actually Iām an aircraft mechanic by trade.) I can only relate to everyone my personal experience with using Cannabis to help with my headaches and it possibly helps with my siezures.
Daniel A Sadler said:
ok Iām sorry ro do this to you but you need a better ref. then Dr. Phillip Leveque he has had his Dr license revoked and suspened. This guy is a Doc in the box.
The link I posted was making the point that you should know and fully understand what you are doing to your brain even with alcohol, cigarettes and even caffeine. The study my wife is talking about was showing what long tearm use of drugs on the brain and the problems they are seeing develop in people like paranoia, bipoler disorders. All scans are of adult brains reread the link.
I refuse to take Oxycontin. Iām taking a normal does of ultram 100ER, Verapmill 125ER, and Propanolol 60 ER. That is my med list because I have been taking CO Q10 (cut my migranes in half after 2-3 mouths of taking it) riboflavin found in most b-12 mixes and potassium and magnesium. EVERY one is Dif because of the problems the AVM is causing. the Mineral list is good for most every one try it and see.
I like our back and forth we have had here as well helps me work my brain over and work on my typing. My back ground is some what like your but with for wheels and just as large costs. I was a/am Ferrari Service Tech and worked for BMW for 7years or so. I can no longer work because of the AVM and difused TBI. One day Iāll make a come back like rockey lol just with a lot of muscle loss. Iāll find the info that my wife has on this it was an eye opener for me(See first post) she is still kinda on the fence about it. I would say short use for high pain levels may be usefull if it was baked into food or eaten. I would say the same Iām not a medical person at all just going on 6 years with an AVM and medical research of my meds. My first Dr. were over druging me took some time and found that thier are good DR.'s out here.
I would like to try a vaporizer personally. I wonder if it could be put in an Athsma type inhaller after vaporization? Maybe thatās my million dollar idea lol! Dont you guys steal it from me! Daniel, I seem to remember many, many moons ago they raced a high dollar sports car, Maybe a Ferrari, Canāt remember which, against an F-14 Tomcat on the runway, the car got off the line first but never quite made it to the end! Lol! It was pretty cool! Iām hoping to eventually get back to fighter aircraft after I finish up my BS. I just got a letter from my old job with Dyncorp yesterday saying my leave of abscense was up, so Iām officially terminated now. Itās crazy, I applied for unemployment with the state, they denied it saying Im not physically capable of working, yet Social Security wont cover you unless you have more than one seizure a month, I average at least one a monthā¦
i believe that it controls my siezures. i didnt start having them after avm rupture and surgery untill i cut back from the marijuana. i am afraid to go outside unless i have had atleast a hit of pot wich works out perfect, because i also enjoy marijuana. the leaves blowing in the wind are what causes my siezures.
thank you all for your comments and concernsā¦ i have found that marijuan helpsā¦ althrough docās have not said much about this other than it is badā¦ why donāt they put avm in their heads have the siezures and the pain than smoke one and find out that it helps. they willā¦ too bad the stuff is legally in my state but docās can not prescript itā¦ well let me say this they can but the state is a jerk and will not go along with it.
Maybe you should move to Boulder, CO (BIG GRINāIām kidding).
I recently read that Boulder must have a lot of glaucoma issues, especially among the Colorado University students, as they lead the nation in number of legal pot shops per hundred people. I forget what the number was, but is seemed like a lot to me.
My BIL lives in a small Colorado town, and they have more than one Pot Shop.
I wonāt condemn or condone what adults do in reference to weed.
I know you made these comments almost a year ago, but I have to agree that the largest opponent to legalization is money. When will pharmeceutical companies create drugs that help people and not just line executive pockets? No soapbox Mike, this is a real problem. Yes Iām all for the medical use of Marijuana. Thanks for bringing this point to light.
I have read that marijuana use decreases occurance of seizures. Also, it helps with headaches when other drugs fail to work. Marijuana is safer than many legal drugs and was only made illegal for political/monetary reasons. I presonally would recommend marijuana use to help with headaches and pain related to AVM and craniotomy. It has helped me. Yet, I would never smoke it.
For me, personally, I have tried medicinal marijuana with my chronic back and neck pain as well with my anxiety, and epilepsy with a high CBD, low THC edible. Which has done wonders for me, making my pain go away, which I've had for year. You don't get ANY high from it, which I like. As well as keeping me focused and calm. However, the edible is quite expensive.
Hello anyone reading this. My name is Cody and I have an A.V.M.I have had gammaknife treatment done to me already and im doing well. Im taking medication now to treat any side effects from it and im doing great, after reading through this entire discussion and looking the new laws being talked about today in the year of 2015. I would love to see peoples point of view and knowledge on this topic. Thanks for your time.
Hi Sherry Neel, I am not sure on your question, I suppose this is different for each country that we are all based in as in the UK it is illegal to have this drug, I did find this blog interesting and thought it was relevant to this discussion so :