Disillusioned, Angry, etc.: Long Rant

It’s been a while since I’ve posted a long rant. I’ve tried my usual techniques to ignore the negativity around me as well as the vexation caused by those supposedly are my “support system”. I’ve tried talking to them. It doesn’t help because they really don’t want to hear it, not because they stop me from talking, but rather they don’t want to HEAR the problem nor do they want to acknowledge I live with an AVM that has ruptured once anymore. So I finally came to the one place I get support (they don’t know of the site really, but I have made it known to the family that I get support from people I haven’t even met).

Guys, I really don’t know how much more I can take. The boundaries I put in place to protect myself so that I can try and help myself not to be in debilitating pain or developing micro bleeds again or aggravating the venous hypertension doesn’t seem to be working anymore. And I have no idea what more I can do since I can’t walk away as they’re my husband and mother, and my only sibling (once off from her side).

Despite the AVM, the Almighty has blessed me with 2 beautiful kids, and they are my everything. And I have never denied any of them (mother and sibling) access to my kids. In fact, my kids use to go on overnight stays weekly from the time they were about a month old (not so much anymore as they’re young kids and want to do their own thing). In 2019 I had a second cerebral angio. No change to the AVM size thankfully but a few more feeding vessels have developed as well as venous hypertension (high pressure in the vessels feeding into the AVM). They’re all aware of it. But I have not been able to do things as I use to and my being able to meet for a meal or go out on short notice, hasn’t been possible anymore. The same happened when we planned something in advance and I wake up with debilitating pain. Long story short, they all had a problem if I couldn’t make it or cancelled on the day. They still had access to the kids but apparently if I said no to them even for the kids if I couldn’t get them ready to go out alone, it was an issue. Sibling openly told the rest of the family she voluntarily doesn’t speak to me. There’s no reason for her to complain, but I gave oxygen to the crap she complained about to help our relationship until it wasn’t getting me anywhere and then I chose to speak up, call out on the nonsense and killed the oxygen. Apparently she doesn’t know anything about an AVM or how bad it is (she was there when I was diagnosed).

Mother - yeah, she’s been spewing forth outright lies about me to my family. It all came to light, and they now choose not to engage with her about me (this is my extended family… uncles, aunts & cousins who know me and finally caught up with her).

Last week was awful. I actually could feel the pressure in my head and the blood flow. A coin could dance on my temple. First time I ever felt the pressure and to such an extent, I didn’t feel the pain. My mom popped in one of the days last week, and apparently she knows nothing about the venous hypertension. I was annoyed and said I can’t understand any of this or why they keep saying these things when she and my sister were there when I was diagnosed, when I had a hemorrhage. And no, I can’t come out for “just half an hour”.

The husband - years ago accused me of making it up about an AVM (I can’t even begin to make sense of that nor will I bother trying). Being in bed with the debilitating pain is me “relaxing” and not pulling my weight (only thing he does besides work, is drop off and pick up the kids from school). Pain or not, micro bleed or not, I still do what I need to. Except the school rounds because I won’t put my kids at risk driving with pain so bad, your reaction time is compromised. I also won’t put myself nor other motorists in jeopardy when I know better.

I’m tired of the judgements, the “I don’t know you had this”, the “she’s not a doctor so how does she know she has a micro bleed” etc. It’s an inconvenience to them because the selfish people (I’m using other colourful words in my head :grinning_face:) can’t get what they want out of me. We had a family wedding. I couldn’t make it. I really tried. Stayed in bed, etc. so that I could take my kids because they really wanted to go, but said they wouldn’t without me (they’re very understanding and I’ve been very vocal now that I will only push myself with pain for them, but I also have to use my judgement).

I lost my gran a couple years ago. I still struggle with it. She lived with my mom and we all lived together and I moved out when I got married. I can’t speak about her or listen to my mother speak about her because I also saw how my mother treated her. I try not to do the same to my mom no matter what, but the selfishness makes me lose my temper once a year. Either way you can’t talk to my mother diplomatically. The woman honestly cannot hear what you say. Everything is taken personally and then I get the emotional blackmail. Since my gran passed away, suddenly the spotlight is on me. I’m still the same person, but I know my sister filled her head with BS because she won’t let my mother live with her. Yet it’s just her and her husband. But I’ve offered my mom to move in with us. But I’m the one spoken about, I’m the one lies are told about and my kids and I are the ones she looks for when she’s bored and lonely. Hey, knock yourself out using me, but I won’t tolerate it being done to my children. Or any child for that matter.

I’ve made it clear to my husband and my mother that the AVM is an off limits topic to them. They can’t speak about it nor will I share info anymore or any developments. Informed my husband he’s been stripped of any medical proxies related to me God forbid that’s required and I’ve given my directive to my surgeons.

I feel disillusioned that this is how they’ve also started behaving. I keep my distance now. As for my husband, I’m figuring it out, but it’s on pause for now for me because I’m dealing with pressure and pain.

The highlight was October. Aneurysm and AVM awareness month and had it on my profile. Spoke about it when my mom was here, only to be gaslit and told it’s mental health awareness month. Her point of saying that isn’t because she knows someone suffering from mental health issue, it’s because my sister is a psychologist. To which I replied “oh no, who’s having a mental health crisis (answer received was nobody, just a fyi) and I reply “really, you couldn’t just keep quiet if you don’t want to acknowledge what people are trying to do to bring awareness to this”. And then I asked, how many times will you pretend this doesn’t exist? Yet she was bawling her eyes out when I was diagnosed.

There’s more I can say, but it’s just different versions of the same thing. I’ve now chosen to distance myself further for my own sake. For me, I’ve noticed emotional stress and trauma make my pain worse and lead to micro bleeds.

Thank you if you made it to the end of this. Please know this: I value each and every person here. You have been an immense support system and I’ve recently showed my kids this forum and what it means to me.

I hope everyone is doing as well as they possibly can and no not a day goes by without my thinking of all you brave people out their living with this.

xoxo

Suraya

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I made it to the end, though I’ve no idea what to say to be of help! I’m sure everyone has family who are challenging but you seem to be something of a record-breaker in more than one way!

I think it’s important to have someone to talk to, so if you’ve got a best best best friend, that can work. Talking here is a decent last resort, too. I don’t know about “professional help” very much: I did go through a stage at work maybe 15 years ago when I got knocked sideways by something (not my health: that knock came about 9 years ago) and I did go through a bit of “professional support” by way of cognitive behaviour therapy which was basic but I have to say overall was a helpful thing to know about. If it is available and if you can afford it, I’d say find out about appropriate professional help. I’d guess your General Practitioner doctor would be someone to talk to about beginning that sort of help.

How old are your children? It sounds like they’re on side, which is great. The arguments of parents in particular can dig really deep holes for them. I always wanted to make sure that if my kids were ever bothered by anything in life that they could always talk to us about it. I’m sure your kids see what’s going on with you and those around you and one day you’ll be able to talk to them as adults.

You’re not alone with these struggles with family to do with an AVM or other vascular anomaly “discussions”. There are definitely others here going through some of what you’re describing.

End of thoughts for now. Mostly I just want to say, “I hear you” because it is important to be heard and understood.

Very best wishes,

Richard

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I have very little to say, other than I hear you. Family present a whole lot of unique challenges, and I find that often the misunderstanding and fear of loved ones add up to a really weird approach. When I say misunderstanding, it is more of complete inability to realize what many of us face who have things like AVMs. My outlet become exercise, that I was allowed to do by my medical folks, and I aimed for solitude to escape. I found it recharged me to be able to manage, mostly, all the other noise and misunderstanding. I needed to find something that worked for me.

I am so happy you are able to come here with us and be comfortable, while we are all very different we share a lot. The understanding, of the lack of understanding of others is one of those factors. If that makes any sense at all! Take Care, John.

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Oh how I can relate! My AVM journey was super lonely. My immediate family didn’t really understand what I was going through, and I relied heavily on the support I got from everyone on this forum.

A big difference is that I was never really bedridden or debilitated, but the reality is I was scared and dealing with all the baggage that comes with the diagnosis by myself. And then there was the surgery. I just remember feeling very alone.

I’m sorry you are having to deal with all that family drama by yourself and you are not getting the support you should be getting from the ones closest to you. I think this is not uncommon with a mysterious and not-well-understood condition like having an AVM.

What is your treatment plan and prognisis? Are you not able to get gamma knife or an embolization? You are in my thoughts! Good luck and Godspeed!

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Oh dear, I can totally relate to pieces of your post. Because I ‘don’t look’ disabled so many people in my life were absolute poop heads during those first years. I found that dealing with their toxicity was hurting my recovery.

If you are open to talking therapy look into getting a therapist. It took me a couple of tries to find one who understood the challenges of having an unseen medical issue, but once I did her support changed my recovery process & my whole life.

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I hear you too! Luckily my close family is very supportive, even though I am still dealing with the AVM after 19 years.

Yesterday was my 19 year anniversary of my first bleed, when I was just a kid. I am currently waiting to see if my third Gamma Knife in 2021 was successful.

My extended family is very cruel to me about my health… my one aunt spreads the rumour that “Julia really isn’t that unwell.” She’s doesn’t see my daily setbacks, my fear, or my mental health struggles.

This past year, I uninvited this same aunt to my wedding after she was causing too much drama in my life. When she realized she wasn’t invited anymore, she told her mother (my Granny), “After I visited Julia in a coma, how could she treat me like this?” All I could think was, “I can’t believe you think I owe you just because you visited me while my brain was bleeding and now you feel that has earned you the right to be part of my life. I didn’t realize that you “supporting me” was emotional blackmail.”

Long story short, I too have been on this website seeking help often, especially in recent months. I am grateful to hear your stories and to share my own in this community! All the best, we’ve got your back!

From, Julia

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Rant away, at least this is a supportive place.

I’ve had a rupture, done ICU, done rehab and I can live independently. But I still have to have down time where I just need to go to my space and shut out the world.

Sending a hug

Tim

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Hey Richard :blush:

Thank you for taking the time to read my post. It was a good outlet, albeit a necessary one, and (I mean this in a good way) I was not really expecting the number of responses it received. I know almost every single person on this forum deal with this problem.

You’re right about one thing: I hit the jackpot in this regard. I believe everything happens for a reason, although we don’t or can’t see it immediately, and I always look for a silver lining, and eventually, bring some laughter into any of these serious/awful situations. I feel lucky to have an AVM (may sound completely weird, but there are people with so much worse going on healthwise), and I make light of me having it. I do that though only for myself and my children.

It’s taken me a couple of years to get to this point where I’m happy with my decision of how much access some people have to me. If I’m good (daily pain included which is manageable), then I can be the best version of myself for my kids and myself. My girls are 9 and 7. They show so much more maturity than the adults around them, but it’s taken them a bit of time to come to terms with my having an AVM. I feel very guilty because there’s so many times I’ve had to cancel plans I had with my kids, but I’ve learned to manage that and I’m grateful that they have been understanding. I’m very open and honest with my kids. They’re very much like me… if they know what they’re dealing with, they can manage it. They’ve been ready to go to bat for me, as sweet as that is, it’s not their responsibility. But I always thank them and praise them for their bravery. The conversations they have with me are very much like having a conversation with an adult, just toned down to their ages, but their questions and statements show me how deeply they think. I’ve been able to help them understand what I have and why I’m not afraid and why they shouldn’t be either, but if they are, it’s ok. They don’t hesitate to speak to me about anything or ask anything, as I’ve tried to inculcate that culture of openness and honesty and a safe place to voice any concerns, issues, etc. about anything. I’ve also tried to put their mind at ease regarding their dad, but more from the perspective of assuaging any concerns or fears and anxiety they may have.

I actually do speak to a psychologist. I started a couple years ago when I had PTSD over a separate issue, but have decided to continue with the talk therapy and include this in. I know it does have a benefit as I’ve felt it before.

Thank you for reading the full post. Receiving a reply, let alone advice such as talking to a therapist, means a lot to me and helps, knowing that you and everyone else who has read it and even responded, makes me feel heard and somehow lightens my shoulders a bit.

I hope all is well with you and thank you again for always being there.

Warm regards,

Suraya

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Dear John,

Thank you, for reading the post and for replying. Being heard and understood is helpful in so many ways for me and I’m truly grateful for the support from everyone on this forum.

I really like the idea you have to help you deal with this noise through your exercise, and I think I need to find something for myself to drown out that noise. I’m also one who likes solitude, as previously I moved to another country to work for a few months. I can’t do that now, although I did recently look into a job offer in another country and was looking to take my kids and leave for a while. But realized that won’t be sustainable if they’re not happy, and not having a support system for them would just be irresponsible. So I think I’m going to look back into the things I enjoyed previously and make an effort to carve out that time for myself. Usually I feel too guilty to do so because I feel as if I’m being selfish and “abandoning” my kids, but I’ve got to shift my thinking and stop the “mom guilt”. If I’m doing well, they will too.

Thank you for taking the time to read my post and for sharing how you manage this situation and hopefully, with a concerted effort from myself, it will help me too.

I hope all is and will be well with you.

Warm regards,

Suraya

Dear John_H

Thank you for reading and responding to my post. I believe you’re quite right… the AVM journey is a very lonely one, but this forum really has been like a lifeline.

I’m sorry to hear about your struggles as well. Not just with the lack of an understanding support system, but also from having to deal with it after treatment by yourself.

I’m very fortunate that I only deal with pain. Sometimes very debilitating pain or micro bleeds (there are all the other “minor” symptoms), but at this point, the risk of any form of intervention outweighs any benefit. And I’m ok with that. I’m use to the pain and just trying to readjust to the “new” type of pain.

Thank you for your kind words. I appreciate it more than you know. I wish you the very best and we’re all here any time you need as well.

Warm wishes,

Suraya

Dear Julia,

Thank you for reading my post and replying. I really appreciate it. I have been speaking with a psychologist to help with PTSD around a different issue, but will continue with the talk therapy for this as well. It’s helped me with the PTSD, so I’m hopeful it will help with this.

Wishing you the best!

Warm regards,

Suraya

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Dear Hermione

Thank you for your support and kind words.

I’m so sorry you went through all of that with your aunt and all I can say is “wow”! It puts things into perspective for me because that really is something you had to deal with!

I hope you receive good news after your last gamma knife. Please keep us posted. Holding thumbs that it has been successful :pink_heart:

Warm regards,

Suraya

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Hi Timb,

Thank you. Being heard and receiving a reply means a lot to me. It lightens the weight somehow. And know we’re here for you too.

Wishing you all the best!

Warm regards,

Suraya

You’ve reminded me about how I dealt with my son about my AVM. I had forgotten that I recognised then the impact on him of having a brain AVM: he was about 13 at the time, so very capable of self-serving information about AVMs from the internet. I pretty much forbade him to go googling stuff but to talk to me or my wife about anything he was worried about. I think he stopped worrying about it because we seemed cool enough about it that he took it as not something to worry about: I must have been masking that really well! :rofl::rofl::weary_face:

It sounds like you have great conversations with your daughters and a wonderful relationship! I’m sure they will continue to be your source of strength and your world. In many ways, this is what having children is all about.

Lots of love,

Richard

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I’m brand new to this–diagnosed in July–radio surgery three weeks ago, but I want you to know you are heard. We all need someone to talk too–I can’t offer anything but I heard you–and your thoughts and feelings matter.

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Hi Gregory,

Thank you for reaching out. I truly appreciate it. Just having someone say “I hear you” is everything.

I’m sorry to hear about your diagnosis. Welcome though! This is a wonderful forum. I hope your recovery is going well and I’m here as well any time you need.

Best wishes,

Suraya

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