I lost my hope…

Hi,

I would like to share something with you.

As many of you have seen from my posts, I am still struggling to get the correct diagnosis and hoping for a successful treatment that will make me AVM-free and help me get out of this alive.

Over the past year, I’ve had to beg doctors to listen to me and pay attention to my symptoms and sensations. Honestly, I consider myself lucky to still be alive considering how bad I feel.

Eventually, I found a doctor who actually listened and carefully reviewed my images. He raised the suspicion of an arteriovenous fistula. I am scheduled for a new angiography on March 25 to see exactly what is happening in my damaged brain and whether something can be successfully treated.

I truly hope so.

In the meantime, many of you have helped me with advice and have been here for me. You shared your experiences and gave me hope that things will be okay.

I’m writing here because there is no one who understands better than you. And even if it may sound strange… this has affected me deeply.

For about a month and a half, I had been talking to a woman whose daughter was diagnosed with multiple brain malformations. She told me her daughter had undergone an embolization procedure and that they managed to close some of the malformations. Everything had gone well, and she was going to have a second procedure to try to treat as many as possible.

I wished her good luck and asked her to keep me updated when her daughter came out of surgery and was okay.

That didn’t happen.

The woman was a bit strange from the beginning. The reason we started talking was because I had asked her for the contact of the doctor treating her daughter, to ask for an opinion… and she didn’t really want to give it to me. She seemed to think I would contact the doctor and mention her daughter.

I don’t understand the connection or why, but anyway.

Her case touched me deeply. I’m a very empathetic person… believe me, I’ve read so many posts here and cried a lot on this site.

When she didn’t message me with any updates, I thought she was just continuing to be secretive, so a few days after the surgery I wrote to her and asked how her daughter was, saying I hoped to hear good news.

Her reply shook me terribly.

Her daughter had severe complications during the embolization and passed away.

I still can’t believe it. It feels unreal, and part of me still hopes it’s some kind of mistake.

To be honest, I never met that girl. We didn’t even exchange two words. But it affected me so deeply, as if she were my own sister.

I know every case and every person is different.
I know not everyone succeeds, unfortunately.

But it made me think so intensely that I might be one of those cases too, especially after the medical negligence I feel I’ve been through so far.

I know many of you only found out about your malformations after a hemorrhage… but for those of you who found out before — how did you manage not to become discouraged by other cases? How did you not give up? How did you not lose hope?

How did you manage to control all the emotions, the anxiety, and the fear that maybe tomorrow won’t come?

Yes, I know anyone can die at any time… it’s part of life, unfortunately.

But I don’t want to accept that I might die so young and in this way.

I don’t want to accept that my story won’t be a success story. And I can’t keep living with these thoughts.

I need advice.

I need to know how you managed to get through this.
Thank you!

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Hi. I found that the half of the time that I was here learning about the positive things and it was ok to stay and about half the time, I would read something that frightened me.

My only solution was to take a break from here when it was not being helpful. And to keep my mind busy with a project.

It’s hard.

And yes, I completely get the emotional connection with people who we wave off to surgery and then wait for a few days to hear from again. Several years ago, we had a span of two months when more than one person was going off to surgery by one means or another each week. It was clear there was a rush of people going, so I started a thread recording their send-off and their return. Can I tell you, I’ve never done it again since: it is just too emotionally hard to wish so much for everyone. And while just about everyone came back perfectly, I think there was one for whom the outcome was not good.

It’s hard. It’s a reality of the situation.

But be positive.

See how you get on with your new neuro. See what they tell you about what they can see. You need to be comfortable with them, basically. Because it’s like crossing a busy road blind and deaf, following the instructions of the neurosurgeon from the pavement. You have to trust that they can see both ways. There’s no other way to cross this road. And they might tell you not to cross.

Stay strong.

Richard

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Thank you Richard…
I m trying to stay strong and keep faith…

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HI
Amareea
I am so sorry to hear such heartbreaking news. I can’t imagine how helpless you must have felt during such a difficult time, especially hearing about the loss of a child. I remember I had a grade 4 AVM, and after assessing the various surgical risks, the doctors in Canada opted for Gamma Knife treatment. They told me that this treatment wouldn’t close the lesion immediately and would usually take 2-3 years to be effective. However, during this waiting period, there was a risk of rebleeding. My lesion was in the cerebellar vermis (near the motor center), and it was a high-grade one. If it bled again, I could die instantly. So I requested craniotomy. That was in early 2020, right when the COVID-19 was just beginning. I waited four months in Canada before returning to China, and then another two months in Beijing before having the surgery. The surgery lasted nearly fifteen hours, but thankfully I survived. And the surgery was successful, although I now have many and very complex aftereffects. But I am truly grateful for the choice I made, and of course, for the doctors’ superb skills. I don’t know how people will judge my actions—courageously? Admirably? Or, using dialectics, irresponsibly? Recklessly? To be honest, I don’t care. I only know that at that time I made the decision I believed was right and what I wanted. I hope you can too. To follow your own thoughts.
At last, just like Richard said, get along well with your new neuro

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STAY STRONG
JIMMY

Hi Jimmy,

Thank you so much for your reply.

The girl wasn’t a child, she was 22 years old… exactly like me. And honestly, age doesn’t really matter… it’s just extremely sad.

Regarding your decision to have the surgery, I’m glad you chose what you felt was best for you, and I’m even happier that the operation was successful.

I honestly don’t know what I will do or what my outcome will be.

One funny thing though… tomorrow is my birthday.

And I decided to buy that expensive cake I’ve wanted for a long time because honestly… I don’t know if it will be my last birthday.

It’s sad because I struggled so much to get a correct diagnosis and, as I said in my post, I know we can all die at any moment and that nothing in life is certain…

But I hope that all this waiting and all the obstacles happened for a reason.

I hope that God made me wait this long so that maybe I could reach this doctor… who might be able to save me.

And as we all know, it’s horrible to live knowing that you have something like this in your head.

And what’s even worse is when you don’t even know exactly what it is, but you know that it’s bad.

It’s honestly ridiculous that I had to spend months learning to read my own MRIs and even my angiography.

And the fact that many doctors treated me like a joke really upsets me.

Thank you for your kind thoughts, and I truly hope that there will be a happy ending for me too.

I really hope so, with all my heart.

Happy birthday in advance!
Buy that cake and enjoy it. Live in the moment. I don’t know your condition, so I can’t give a definitive answer or diagnosis like a doctor. I just want to tell you that life is for experiencing, not for worrying. Enjoy your birthday and every day to the fullest. Get along well with your new doctor; since you chose this doctor, trust him and cooperate actively with the treatment. You’ll be okay; I believe you can get through this. I also believe many other friends feel the same way.
Happy birthday again. Don’t let anxiety prevent you from enjoying what you should be enjoying; don’t be anxious for the sake of anxiety. Happy birthday!

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Thank youu!!
Actually it is March 6
I will try to enjoy the days for how long I have them and really hope that I will be fine!
We ll see
If i will not be active here anymore, it means i didn t make it​:sweat_smile:
But I hope I will!!!
Thank you again!!

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You must
Best
Jimmy

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Hi Amareea,

I was diagnosed with a cerebral AVF back in 2009, and I underwent a 6 hour embolization procedure in 2010. It was totally successful, and I went on to earn two black belts and I remain very active today at 64 years old. My AVF was fairly accessible and the operation was performed endoscopically. I did lose all my hair. That was a side effect of the flouroscopy they used for imaging, so they can see whats goimg on with the catheter, etc. Bit it grew back.

As for the worry, I’m just not wired that way. I trust that the Universe has my back. I never worried about dying. I don’t worry about anything much, especially things I am not in control of. Trust the Universe, think positive thoughts, meditate, and get in close touch with your body and mind. Worry is actually counterproductive. Stress is not good for you. Burn some imcense and play some calming music. Clear your mind of these negative thoughts. You will be fine!

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Hello John!
Thank you so much for your message
I really apreciate it​:folded_hands:t2:
I hope i will be fine too!
I m trying to be strong here​:sweat_smile:
It s hard
But I hope I will come here and tell everyone thar I made it !

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Oh, of course! And Happy Birthday! Feel free to reach out if you have any questions I might be able to answer, or if you just need to talk. I will be keeping you in my thoughts and sending positive energy your way.

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Thank you so much!
It means a lot! :folded_hands:t2:

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@Amareea I am still trying to deal with the sadness about the girl passing away during the Embolization. I can only imagine how the parents are feeling. I am not going to lie to say that I was not anxious and scared about my son going through it. My son now 25 had a seizure in July 2023. That was how we found out. We didn’t know what was an AVM much less how to deal with one. Visited a neurosurgeon in Dallas at Dallas Methodist Hospital in August of 2023 that gave us the “great” news that he could give my son a stroke during the Embolization due to the unpredictability of the Onyx substance used during the procedure. I remember leaving the doctor’s office with a stunned expression on my face and heart that I took with me on our drive home (8 hour drive time). The blessing is that the doctor said that he could NOT do procedure until we had insurance so we didn’t do it with him. I found my son insurance which lead us to an expert AVM neurosurgeon @ Houston Methodist with Dr Britz. He teaches at the renowned neurology institute in NY. That gave me a bit more peace even though he still brought up the risks. In January 16, 2024 my son went through the Embolization which went fine praise God. I would say that He brought us the peace we all needed before the procedure. Also understand that the little girl you mentioned had many AVMs that needed to be Embolization so the risk was higher. We will be praying for you as I remember how the wait time feels like. God be with you ( I apologize if you are not a believer in God). Please keep us posted Amareea . We are in this fight together in this forum.

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Hello, Dageris,
Thank you for takeing the time to write this to me.
Thank you for sharing your sons story,
I hope he will be avm free soon without any complications ever ( if he s not avm free yet )
For me , it was that many doctors didn t listened to me…
But maybe finally this doctor would and he maybe will help me…
I really hope that everything will be fine for me…
And yes, of course I will keep you updated…
The only way I will not be active here anymore it s that I m not makeing it.
But I will.
I will fight until the last day!
Thank you!

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Thank you @Amareea for my son’s wishes. Just for you to know he had a failed Craniotomy two days after his Embolization . Because of this failure, he then went on to get Gamma Knife GK. Therefore he has Embo plus GK. Hopefully the combination will do their job in a few years as far as obliteration. So far he is back as far as school and work. His name is Daniel and mine is Roberto from south Texas. Dageris is just a name I chose for this forum. Prayers for you @Amareea and we will be praying for you every night. Blessings

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I m sorry that he had a failed craniotomy
I really hope gamma will work and he will be avm free soon​:face_holding_back_tears:
Thank you so much for keeping me in your prayers!
It means a lot
I hope God will help us all to be avm free and save…

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Amen to both of you kids can be AVM free so that you both can stop worrying about it and start having a life you both deserve. You should be doing all fun things kids your age should be doing. That’s my prayer for you and my son and all AVM survivors. The failed Craniotomy was due to neurosurgeon didn’t want to cut off the AVM mid surgery due to his knowledge and skill that cutting it off would have left my son paralyzed from the right side. AVM was too close to his motor cortex. Therefore even though my son was already cut as per skull, doctor decided not to follow the extraction. Very hard times for him as he had so much hope to get AVM behind him but fully understands and appreciates doctor’s decision. Blessings @Amareea

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After the shock of your diagnosis, treatment, etc., you go through this process. Omg I can’t believe this is happening to me, am I just having a headache or is this the big one? I was diagnosed with an AVM in 2002, with no treatment, just a bleed near my occipital nerve. I struggled for 8 months with anxiety, memory problems, shaking, and all the wonderful things this brings on. I felt alone, no answers, no help. I threw out anxiety meds and fought every day to get back to normal. I ended up in the hospital after having a seizure, and there was nothing they could do. Then a doctor came in and gave me the best advice, and I am going to give it to you. I asked him, so what should I do and he said Go Live Your Life. I took that advice. It wasn’t easy. I would say to myself What’s the worst thing that could happen? I go to the store, have a seizure, and pass out? Then I realized that wouldn’t be my problem; it would be everyone else’s. Every two years, I get a CT or MRI, and they say yes, it’s there. So here is my advice, once you get to the point where you’re no longer controlled by anxiety and you realize you’re not dying any time soon, Then Go Live Your Life. In the 24 years since my diagnosis, I now have a successful insurance business, a beautiful wife, family, and most importantly, 3 incredible grandchildren. Go live your best life. Think about your future, like writing a book, instead of your illness. Godspeed.

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